Sunday, May 04, 2014

They won't get MY guns!

The most perfect response to a typical "government won't come to get my guns" gun lover who said this:

"Joe Clark - There are about 80 million people who might disagree with the "new aristocracy" if the "new aristocracy" gets the Second Amendment repealed........"

And the response....

"Fans of J. Michael Straczynski - And what, pray tell, are you defending with that second amendment, Joe? Is it a goal unto itself? Or is there a reason for it? Because the other provisions under the Bill of Rights provide for safety against breaches of privacy, which the right gave away for safety after 9/11...it prohibits being held without trial, which the right also gave freely away in fear of terrorists (Jose Padilla among others)...it provides for free expression and the right to assemble, which the right allowed police and the government to extinguish during the occupy movement, which whether you agreed with them or not were still legal until suddenly the government decided that there were free speech zones, and I don't remember you or anybody else on the right complaining about that... the freedom of an unencumbered press has been destroyed by whistleblower prosecutions and you folks on the right seemed okay with that...and we won't even get into the extent to which the Bill of Right's separation of church and state have been savagely attacked by the right, which seems totally okay with that as well.

I could go on and on and on...and mind you I'm not saying one thing for or against the gun issue, I'm just asking the question: what are you keeping them for since you freely and almost gleefully gave away everything you're supposed to be using them to protect? You're guarding a house that has burned down behind you."

A follow up:

"Colin Haywood - JMS, I'm with you on most of this but it's not quite fair to lay the erosion of civil rights entirely at the feet of the right. As you say in your poem, both parties have been culpable; indeed, we all of us are culpable."

And the excellent response once again:

"Fans of J. Michael Straczynski - Colin: I don't disagree. Nor did I mean the right to the exclusion of the left. Both sides did it. But the hypocrisy, for me, is to see the right screaming bloody murder in defense of one right when they've happily, willingly and in some cases even gleefully given away the rest. Joe stands among that august company.

And though both parties acquiesced, it was the right that led this, make no mistake. Lots of folks on the left said, when warrantless wiretapping was discovered, "you can't do this, the Bill of Rights prohibits illegal search and seizure." And the right said "shut up, we need to be safe!"

When the left complained about American citizens being arrested without warrant and held without charges, it was the right, far more than the left, who said "shut up, we need to be safe!"

Time after time, the right led the battle to surrender the rights that the guns are supposedly there to protect.
Which is why there's no need in the long run for anyone to come for the guns...and why this won't happen (needless to say there is no one in congress actually saying "let's repeal the second amendment," that hasn't happened, let's not get into the gun discussion per se, that's another topic for another time).

The point is that there's no need to come for the guns to get our freedoms...because they've already been given away."

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